The Goodness of God in Election

When I was catching up on reading my favorite blogs, I came across this brief and powerful quote over at Reformation Theology Blog. I have here reproduced the entire quote for my reader’s benefit. (Thanks to Pastor John Samson for bringing this to my attention with this post.)

After giving a brief survey of these doctrines of sovereign grace, I asked for questions from the class. One lady, in particular, was quite troubled. She said, ‘This is the most awful thing I’ve ever heard! You make it sound as if God is intentionally turning away men and women who would be saved, receiving only the elect.’ I answered her in this vein: ‘You misunderstand the situation. You’re visualizing that God is standing at the door of heaven, and men are thronging to get in the door, and God is saying to various ones, ‘Yes, you may come, but not you, and you, but not you, etc.’ The situation is hardly this. Rather, God stands at the door of heaven with His arms outstretched, inviting all to come. Yet all men without exception are running in the opposite direction towards hell as hard as they can go. So God, in election, graciously reaches out and stops this one, and that one, and this one over here, and that one over there, and effectually draws them to Himself by changing their hearts, making them willing to come. Election keeps no one out of heaven who would otherwise have been there, but it keeps a whole multitude of sinners out of hell who otherwise would have been there. Were it not for election, heaven would be an empty place, and hell would be bursting at the seams. That kind of response, grounded as I believe that it is in Scriptural truth, does put a different complexion on things, doesn’t it? If you perish in hell, blame yourself, as it is entirely your fault. But if you should make it to heaven, credit God, for that is entirely His work! To Him alone belong all praise and glory, for salvation is all of grace, from start to finish. – Mark Webb [emphasis added]

This quote really reveals the heart of Calvinism, and addresses the main objection raised in those who do not understand it. If only Dave Hunt had heard this quote before he wrote his book What Love is This? Perhaps he would have been more understanding as to where Calvinists are coming from. If you are not a Calvinist, I hope this quote helps you understand us a little bit better! And if you are, try using the analogy; I know I will!


∼striving for the unity of the faith for the glory of God∼ Eph. 4:3,13 “¢ Rom. 15:5-7

Dietrich Bonhoeffer on Christian Community

Pastor Kenny Stokes, our Lead Pastor for Spreading at Bethlehem Baptist, wrote an excellent article in our weekly church newsletter, The Bethlehem Star. In it, he excerpts quotes from Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s book Life Together on Christian community. The article adds perspective and encouragement to my earlier post on the duty of a “one-another ministry” as seen in 1 Thessalonians. A few excerpts from the quotes provided by Pastor Stokes will here follow.

  • A PRIVILEGE AND GIFT: As a pastor and seminary professor in Nazi Germany, Bonhoeffer realized all too well that “It is not simply to be taken for granted that the Christian has the privilege of living among other Christians….It is easily forgotten that the fellowship of Christian brethren is a gift of grace, a gift of the Kingdom of GOD that any day may be taken away from us…”.
  • ONLY THROUGH CHRIST: “…a Christian comes to others only through Jesus Christ….Without Christ we should not know God, we could not call upon him, nor come to him. But without Christ we also would not know our brother, nor could we come to him. The way is blocked by our own ego. Christ opened up the way to God and to our brother.”
  • DISILLUSIONMENT: This especially intrigued me: “Innumerable times a whole Christian community has broken down because it had sprung from a wish dream….But God’s grace speedily shatters such dreams. Just as surely as God desires to lead us to a knowledge of genuine Christian fellowship, so surely must we be overwhelmed by a great disillusionment with others, with Christians in general, and if we are fortunate, with ourselves….Only that fellowship which faces such disillusionment, with all its unhappy and ugly aspects, begins to be what it should be in God’s sight begins to grasp in faith the promise that is given to it….He who loves his dream of a community more than the Christian community itself becomes a destroyer of the latter.” I take him to be stressing that our duty to minister to one another is sometimes a duty to get ourselves dirty in a difficult and not always personally gratifying way. We are called to serve and love not merely enjoy each other’s company only as much as they please us. Secular clubs do no better. Grudges and resentment are to be removed through the power of the Spirit and to the glory of Christ. [I think much more could be thought through on this point, but that must be saved for another time.]
  • THANKFULNESS REQUIRED: “Only God knows the real state of our fellowship, of our sanctification. What may appear weak and trifling to us may be great and glorious to God. Just as a Christian should not be constantly feeling his spiritual pulse, so, too, the Christian community has not been given to us by God for us to be constantly taking its temperature. The more thankfully we daily receive what is given to us, the more surely and steadily will fellowship increase and grow from day to day as God pleases.”
  • REALITY, NOT AN IDEAL: “Christian brotherhood is not an ideal which we must realize; it is rather a reality created by God in Christ in which we may participate.”

Pastor Stokes closed with these words: “In view of God’s mercies in Christ (cf. Romans 1-11), informed by the biblical call to love one another, unhindered by the historical and social racial barriers of our day, may we press on — with thankfulness — to love one another more and more in practical new ways in 2006. As Paul urged the church in 1 Thessalonians, I urge you Bethlehem, ‘Now concerning brotherly love you have no need for anyone to write to you, for you yourselves have been taught by God to love one another, for that indeed is what you are doing….But we urge you, brothers, to do this more and more…’ (1 Thessalonians 4:9-10, ESV)”

I conclude by pointing out first that this article is available in a pdf format here. And then I want to encourage us with these thoughts to continue embracing our duty to mutual fellowship. Again, please reference this earlier post of mine, regarding the duty of being a Christian brother. I hope these thoughts by Bonhoeffer encourage you as much as they did me.


∼striving for the unity of the faith for the glory of God∼ Eph. 4:3,13 “¢ Rom. 15:5-7

The Best of the God Blogs!

The Best of the God Blogs

I just ran across a good resource for bloggers and blog readers (sometimes called blurfers, ie. blog surfers). The Best of the God Blogs, posts daily (M-F) links to some of the best posts out there in the Christian blogosphere. They even take recommendations from readers.

Anyway, as an example of what you can find, let me briefly mention what I found listed there this past Friday. I found a great article by Carolyn Mulcahey, of Solo Feminity, on “Modesty in a Hypersexual World” (a good admonition for women, particularly single women, on the importance of modesty in dress as part of a Christian worldview). I also found the answers to the Heresy quiz which I posted about here. And I found another link to a blog post containing all 15 stanzas of the classic hymn “Jesus, the Very Thought of Thee”. This kind of valuable material is linked to daily thanks to The Best of the God Blogs! Check it out for yourself.


∼striving for the unity of the faith for the glory of God∼ Eph. 4:3,13 “¢ Rom. 15:5-7

Cessationism and Continuationism: a Debate over Spiritual Gifts

Lately, it has been hard to avoid the cessationist / continuationist debate when perusing the Christian blogosphere. I mentioned it myself in a recent post on a somewhat different topic. But the time has come for me to open up the debate for any interested here on my blog.

Have miraculous gifts, tongues, and prophecy ceased today??

What follows is my bringing together a list of links to interesting articles on the topic. I come from a cessationist background, yet I have much sympathy for the continuationist position in principle (for some brief definitions of terms and a discussion of the debate check out Phil Johnson’s post here.) Today there are quite a few “reformed charismatics” . And they are not your typical TBN variety, either!

Before you continue on to the rest of this article, though, at least reference my recent post explaining the current blog-o-debate over this issue centering on Phil Johnson’s blogs (his now abandoned Pyromaniac, and the new teamblog Pyromaniacs).

  • At the onset let me state that I believe much of this debate centers on assumptions and implications. The cessationist assumes that with the closure of the canon, the function of these miraculous or apostolic-type gifts (throw in prophecy too) is no longer needed. They also assume that the purpose of the gifts is tied up in an apostolic authentication function which has ceased with the John the Beloved’s death. On the flip side, the continuationist assumes the gifts should continue since Scripture does not expressly teach there cessation. (Cessationists’ claims that 1 Cor. 13:8 is such an express teaching seem too simplistic and eisegetical to me.)
  • Now, to the articles…. Phil Johnson points out, in a post entitled “You’re probably a cessationist, too”, that virtually all charismatics agree that the modern use of prophecy (and even the modern exercise of the gift of miracles) is inherently different from the NT exercise of it by the apostles and others. From this he claims continuationists “have, in effect, conceded the entire concessionist argument” .
  • Adrian Warnock points out, though, that virtually all cessationists concede a good bit of the continuationist’s argument by holding to a continued experiential role of the Holy Spirit in the lives of believers.
  • Steve S has a series of articles on this subject which trace the nature of Biblical prophecy and show how the closing of the canon really does not address the question at hand.
  • Ben Wright, of Paleoevangelical, in a series of articles dealing with Fundamental Baptist Fellowship’s position on John Piper (see part 1, part 2, and part 3 of this interesting series) he makes the following interesting observations, “Is there not a difference between recognizing a specific ongoing gift [to specific individuals] of healing or miracles, and merely allowing that God might still choose to perform a miraculous healing or some other sign to validate the gospel?” And he brings the argument home when he applies this point to fundamentalist missionaries describing miraculous workings of God on the foreign field. He says, “These events seem to be similar to what Piper is talking about. The only difference I see is that Piper is advocating that we pray for these signs, but fundamentalists merely testify that they happen.” See the whole post here.
  • Steven Harris has an excellent article dealing with the eschatological function of spiritual gifts. THIS IS DEFINITELY WORTH READING!!
  • And last, but not least, John Piper has a good Scriptural treatment of spiritual gifts here. He does an especially good job dealing with the cessationist use of 2 Cor. 12:11-12 to prove the gifts are “apostolic signs” , and must therefore pass away with the apostles.

Any thoughts or suggestions? Anyone willing to contribute to the debate? For now, I am still reading and thinking prayerfully about this position, although I must be honest in stating that I can see a lot more Scriptural support on the continuationist side of the fence.

(But in closing, let me stress, this issue does not necessarily need to divide believers. The Reformation principle of Sola Scriptura is affirmed by many on both sides. The presence of explicitly false prophecies or unscriptural superstitions, or an unbiblical emphasis on the gift of tongues ”these issues are actually distinct and separate from this issue. They do not necessarily follow from continuationism. Again I point you to Nathan Pitchford’s call to unity here.)

I Will Glory in My Redeemer by Steve & Vikki Cook

I recommend many modern hymns & contemporary songs for corporate worship. While the old hymns are certainly grand, the new songs God is giving to the church, are worthy of respect too.

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This song is very stirring. It directs one’s heart to Christ. He is our Righteousness and He secures our right standing with God! He is also the one we long to forever behold.

I hope this song makes you lift up your heart in worship to our Savior Jesus Christ. Discovering this song, has done that for me.

I will glory in My Redeemer

Words and Music by Steve and Vikki Cook

I will glory in my Redeemer
Whose priceless blood has ransomed me
Mine was the sin that drove the bitter nails
And hung Him on that judgment tree
I will glory in my Redeemer
Who crushed the power of sin and death
My only Savior before the Holy Judge
The Lamb Who is my righteousness
The Lamb Who is my righteousness

I will glory in my Redeemer
My life He bought, my love He owns
I have no longings for another
I’m satisfied in Him alone
I will glory in my Redeemer
His faithfulness my standing place
Though foes are mighty and rush upon me
My feet are firm, held by His grace
My feet are firm, held by His grace

I will glory in my Redeemer
Who carries me on eagle’s wings
He crowns my life with lovingkindness
His triumph song I’ll ever sing
I will glory in my Redeemer
Who waits for me at gates of gold
And when He calls me it will be paradise
His face forever to behold
His face forever to behold
His face forever to behold

CCLI Song # 3337435,   © 2001 Sovereign Grace Worship (Admin. by Integrity’s Hosanna! Music)

Song Resources:

Guitar chord sheet & musical score: Available free, here.
MP3 preview clip: Available here or here.
Listen to the MP3 for free: At rhapsody.com.
MP3 purchase links: Here and here.
Author Discography: Steve & Vikki
CD purchase links:
Songs for the Cross Centered Life (first sample above) – Amazon.com or direct from Sovereign Grace Ministries
No Greater Love (second sample above) – Amazon.com or direct from Sovereign Grace Ministries
Before the ThroneAmazon.com or direct from Sovereign Grace Ministries
Bonus: CD Trailer for Songs for the Cross Centered Life