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		<title>By: CHRISTIAN</title>
		<link>http://www.fundamentallyreformed.com/2009/01/26/against-spiritual-abuse/comment-page-1/#comment-9809</link>
		<dc:creator>CHRISTIAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 02:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I TOO  still would rightfully rather see pastor first live a sermon instead of too often now merely preach it to others and I really do think it is so farcical how some sinfully, proud evangelical pastors are ready to condemn others, to gossip about, to now preach about the other person’s  sins but someone how they can’t seem to deal with their own false abuse of others, their own sins, and their own false pride.. http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/get-real-now/
 
(Prov 27:2 KJV)  Let another man praise thee, and not thine own mouth; a stranger, and not thine own lips.
 
(1 Cor 14:33 KJV)  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
 
(James 3:16 KJV)  For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I TOO  still would rightfully rather see pastor first live a sermon instead of too often now merely preach it to others and I really do think it is so farcical how some sinfully, proud evangelical pastors are ready to condemn others, to gossip about, to now preach about the other person’s  sins but someone how they can’t seem to deal with their own false abuse of others, their own sins, and their own false pride.. <a href="http://postedat.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/get-real-now/" rel="nofollow">http://postedat.wordpress.com/.....-real-now/</a></p>
<p>(Prov 27:2 KJV)  Let another man praise thee, and not thine own mouth; a stranger, and not thine own lips.</p>
<p>(1 Cor 14:33 KJV)  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.</p>
<p>(James 3:16 KJV)  For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.</p>
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		<title>By: restoringheart</title>
		<link>http://www.fundamentallyreformed.com/2009/01/26/against-spiritual-abuse/comment-page-1/#comment-9562</link>
		<dc:creator>restoringheart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 23:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for asking a great question Bob (e.g. how you were able to work through these kinds of issues in your own life.) I was abused in a church 4-1/2 years ago and recently was just told by another church that they deemed me a non-believer and kicked me out of the church. I think it is actually because of their reformed theology beliefs that they said that as they fall on the conversative end of that belief system and I didn&#039;t know anything about the theology until a few weeks ago. I have been reading books, visiting web sites and talking to victims for the last few years and I have recently realized that we hear from the experts about how to recover, but I haven&#039;t yet seen practical steps that we as victims are/have taking/taken to recover. I just posted that question on my site as I would love to hear more about what people have been doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for asking a great question Bob (e.g. how you were able to work through these kinds of issues in your own life.) I was abused in a church 4-1/2 years ago and recently was just told by another church that they deemed me a non-believer and kicked me out of the church. I think it is actually because of their reformed theology beliefs that they said that as they fall on the conversative end of that belief system and I didn&#8217;t know anything about the theology until a few weeks ago. I have been reading books, visiting web sites and talking to victims for the last few years and I have recently realized that we hear from the experts about how to recover, but I haven&#8217;t yet seen practical steps that we as victims are/have taking/taken to recover. I just posted that question on my site as I would love to hear more about what people have been doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Leah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your post, &quot;Against Spiritual Abuse.&quot;  Yes indeed it is &quot;a sad reality.&quot;  Perhaps the greatest &quot;damage that can been done&quot; and what is rarely talked about is spiritual abuse by church leaders in regards to the marriage institution.  I speak from sad experience on this point and know of countless others infected by these dreaded acts.

There are many &quot;churches&quot; today that are headed by carnal-minded &quot;spiritual monsters&quot; who will not tolerate ANYONE disagreeing with them in doctrine or in other church matters.  So in order to stop this &quot;cancer&quot; the leaders deliberately pit one spouse against the other in order to gain their own ends.  For example, if one spouse starts to question church policy or question the pastors&#039; sermon, the other spouse is &quot;counseled&quot; to separate or even divorce from them in order to teach them a lesson.

You think I&#039;m kidding?  Would to God that I were!

A really good site exposing this evil is:
www.wickedshepherds.com

There are many great articles (and testimonies too) concerning this evil in the church.  One good article on that site that exposes the evil that I am specifically talking about is entitled &quot;A Word To The Wives.&quot;

Leah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your post, &#8220;Against Spiritual Abuse.&#8221;  Yes indeed it is &#8220;a sad reality.&#8221;  Perhaps the greatest &#8220;damage that can been done&#8221; and what is rarely talked about is spiritual abuse by church leaders in regards to the marriage institution.  I speak from sad experience on this point and know of countless others infected by these dreaded acts.</p>
<p>There are many &#8220;churches&#8221; today that are headed by carnal-minded &#8220;spiritual monsters&#8221; who will not tolerate ANYONE disagreeing with them in doctrine or in other church matters.  So in order to stop this &#8220;cancer&#8221; the leaders deliberately pit one spouse against the other in order to gain their own ends.  For example, if one spouse starts to question church policy or question the pastors&#8217; sermon, the other spouse is &#8220;counseled&#8221; to separate or even divorce from them in order to teach them a lesson.</p>
<p>You think I&#8217;m kidding?  Would to God that I were!</p>
<p>A really good site exposing this evil is:<br />
<a href="http://www.wickedshepherds.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.wickedshepherds.com</a></p>
<p>There are many great articles (and testimonies too) concerning this evil in the church.  One good article on that site that exposes the evil that I am specifically talking about is entitled &#8220;A Word To The Wives.&#8221;</p>
<p>Leah</p>
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		<title>By: fundyreformed</title>
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		<dc:creator>fundyreformed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link, it&#039;s sad to see the damage done by such groups.  The similarities across denominational lines and theological points of view is also scary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link, it&#8217;s sad to see the damage done by such groups.  The similarities across denominational lines and theological points of view is also scary.</p>
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		<title>By: Toxic Sheep No More</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toxic Sheep No More</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Christian community needs to be educated in the facts of spiritual abuse. It is VERY REAL- I am a survivor of it.
http://outofthesilverchair.blogspot.com/2009/01/blinded-by-false-love.html is the link to some accounts of life in a fundamental cult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Christian community needs to be educated in the facts of spiritual abuse. It is VERY REAL- I am a survivor of it.<br />
<a href="http://outofthesilverchair.blogspot.com/2009/01/blinded-by-false-love.html" rel="nofollow">http://outofthesilverchair.blo.....-love.html</a> is the link to some accounts of life in a fundamental cult.</p>
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		<title>By: wen</title>
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		<dc:creator>wen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks--i can across this site on a search--
wen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks&#8211;i can across this site on a search&#8211;<br />
wen</p>
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		<title>By: BeckyJoie</title>
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		<dc:creator>BeckyJoie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One pastor/ Christian school administrator asked someone I know, this question.  &quot;Why do you think so many of our grads are no longer serving the Lord? Why didn&#039;t they take to heart what we taught them.&quot;

Whether or not this person really understood the question they were asking, it is profound. Statistics would lend to the idea the fear adn abuse do not prepetuate Christianity. I think extremism is one of the chief ways that the enemy pulls &quot;christians&quot; out of the church and/or away from God.  It  does anger me as well.  It shake the foundations of ones identity to be subjected to spiritual abuse and legalism. I hope that everyone who has been wounded will learn to see that God is not the brute that some extreme religious leaders have portrayed Him to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One pastor/ Christian school administrator asked someone I know, this question.  &#8220;Why do you think so many of our grads are no longer serving the Lord? Why didn&#8217;t they take to heart what we taught them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Whether or not this person really understood the question they were asking, it is profound. Statistics would lend to the idea the fear adn abuse do not prepetuate Christianity. I think extremism is one of the chief ways that the enemy pulls &#8220;christians&#8221; out of the church and/or away from God.  It  does anger me as well.  It shake the foundations of ones identity to be subjected to spiritual abuse and legalism. I hope that everyone who has been wounded will learn to see that God is not the brute that some extreme religious leaders have portrayed Him to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both church abuse and spiritual abuse are sad realities in the Christian arena. God has given us protection though...Knowing the Living Word of God and practicing the presence of the indwelling Holy Spirit.

Unfortunately many get abused before they are grounded enough to know the protection. Deliverance is promised for the truth will make us free. Those of us that are grounded in the Word need to be sure that we encourage Bible reading among our younger brothers and sisters and encourage them to seek the guidance of the Holy Spirit...for He is the one who will brings us into all truth, grounding us in the very words of Jesus so the deceiver is unarmed; chains are broken and the wounded heard is healed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both church abuse and spiritual abuse are sad realities in the Christian arena. God has given us protection though&#8230;Knowing the Living Word of God and practicing the presence of the indwelling Holy Spirit.</p>
<p>Unfortunately many get abused before they are grounded enough to know the protection. Deliverance is promised for the truth will make us free. Those of us that are grounded in the Word need to be sure that we encourage Bible reading among our younger brothers and sisters and encourage them to seek the guidance of the Holy Spirit&#8230;for He is the one who will brings us into all truth, grounding us in the very words of Jesus so the deceiver is unarmed; chains are broken and the wounded heard is healed.</p>
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