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		<title>By: Fundamentalist Confusion over Fighting Sin &#171; Fundamentally Changed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fundamentalist Confusion over Fighting Sin &#171; Fundamentally Changed</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Boms Lacsina</title>
		<link>http://www.fundamentallyreformed.com/2007/06/19/powerful-preaching-a-case-study/comment-page-1/#comment-7042</link>
		<dc:creator>Boms Lacsina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen and amen!  Whatever it is that the Father requires, only can CHRIST fulfill.  May He graciously fulfill it in us and through us.

Christ alone is truly faithful.  To Him alone be the glory.

And if any of this causes anyone to ask, &quot;Well, does this mean that it&#039;s okay to sin (or okay to not pray or to give in to the flesh since we&#039;re weak anyway)?&quot; then as Paul said, their condemnation is deserved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen and amen!  Whatever it is that the Father requires, only can CHRIST fulfill.  May He graciously fulfill it in us and through us.</p>
<p>Christ alone is truly faithful.  To Him alone be the glory.</p>
<p>And if any of this causes anyone to ask, &#8220;Well, does this mean that it&#8217;s okay to sin (or okay to not pray or to give in to the flesh since we&#8217;re weak anyway)?&#8221; then as Paul said, their condemnation is deserved.</p>
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		<title>By: Gage Browning</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gage Browning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comparison Bob.  Very true...very true..

Gage Browning
Post Tenebras Lux</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comparison Bob.  Very true&#8230;very true..</p>
<p>Gage Browning<br />
Post Tenebras Lux</p>
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		<title>By: fundyreformed</title>
		<link>http://www.fundamentallyreformed.com/2007/06/19/powerful-preaching-a-case-study/comment-page-1/#comment-7041</link>
		<dc:creator>fundyreformed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Casey C,

I definitely consider myself a fundamentalist in that sense.  I agree that word can be confusing!

The KJV Only crowd do flourish in America, but they have brought their issue to the four corners of the world.  It is becoming problematic in missions circles in many places, sadly.

I&#039;d settle for Huckabee as VP, but I&#039;d love him as P even better.

Thanks for stopping by,

God bless,

Bob Hayton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Casey C,</p>
<p>I definitely consider myself a fundamentalist in that sense.  I agree that word can be confusing!</p>
<p>The KJV Only crowd do flourish in America, but they have brought their issue to the four corners of the world.  It is becoming problematic in missions circles in many places, sadly.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d settle for Huckabee as VP, but I&#8217;d love him as P even better.</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by,</p>
<p>God bless,</p>
<p>Bob Hayton</p>
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		<title>By: caseyc</title>
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		<dc:creator>caseyc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 02:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At first I was confused by your title. I came here thinking I&#039;d find an atheist website. As I looked further I couldn&#039;t find anything I disagreed with. I now realize you&#039;re defining fundamentalist differently than I would. The groups you&#039;re labeling &quot;fundamentalist&quot; I would label &quot;cults.&quot; Personally, I consider myself a &quot;fundamentalist,&quot; i.e. someone who &quot;emphasizes the literally interpreted Bible as fundamental to Christian life and teaching.&quot;

I think the KJV-only crowd exists only in America. I think it stems from so many people never having studied a foreign language.

As for Mike Huckabee, I hope Fred Thompson chooses him as his running mate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first I was confused by your title. I came here thinking I&#8217;d find an atheist website. As I looked further I couldn&#8217;t find anything I disagreed with. I now realize you&#8217;re defining fundamentalist differently than I would. The groups you&#8217;re labeling &#8220;fundamentalist&#8221; I would label &#8220;cults.&#8221; Personally, I consider myself a &#8220;fundamentalist,&#8221; i.e. someone who &#8220;emphasizes the literally interpreted Bible as fundamental to Christian life and teaching.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think the KJV-only crowd exists only in America. I think it stems from so many people never having studied a foreign language.</p>
<p>As for Mike Huckabee, I hope Fred Thompson chooses him as his running mate.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 12:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Steve for trying again.  I have another mailbox if you would be so kind to try again.  Send it to gordon @ go-concepts.com.  That mailbox is empty and much larger than the other.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Steve for trying again.  I have another mailbox if you would be so kind to try again.  Send it to gordon @ go-concepts.com.  That mailbox is empty and much larger than the other.  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: fundyreformed</title>
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		<dc:creator>fundyreformed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 22:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ralph,

You make a great point.  That fear which is so often cultivated by this kind of preaching, comes in part from the performance-based system.  People are encouraged to perform, and only find value and worth when they perform.  They relate to God on the basis of how well they have kept the standards and done the duties.  When they perform well they feel good about God and themselves, when they have failed, they feel that God doesn&#039;t love them, and they can&#039;t worship Him.

This is very dangerous.  We need to relate to God on the basis of Jesus&#039; righteousness and sacrifice alone.  When people are constantly threatened with &quot;you&#039;re not right with God if you...&quot;, they lose sight of the fact that NOTHING we can DO earns a standing of &quot;right with God&quot;.  Only Jesus and Jesus alone gives us a standing of &quot;right with God&quot;.

Thanks again for stopping by Ralph.  May God bless you and yours richly in Christ.

Bob Hayton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralph,</p>
<p>You make a great point.  That fear which is so often cultivated by this kind of preaching, comes in part from the performance-based system.  People are encouraged to perform, and only find value and worth when they perform.  They relate to God on the basis of how well they have kept the standards and done the duties.  When they perform well they feel good about God and themselves, when they have failed, they feel that God doesn&#8217;t love them, and they can&#8217;t worship Him.</p>
<p>This is very dangerous.  We need to relate to God on the basis of Jesus&#8217; righteousness and sacrifice alone.  When people are constantly threatened with &#8220;you&#8217;re not right with God if you&#8230;&#8221;, they lose sight of the fact that NOTHING we can DO earns a standing of &#8220;right with God&#8221;.  Only Jesus and Jesus alone gives us a standing of &#8220;right with God&#8221;.</p>
<p>Thanks again for stopping by Ralph.  May God bless you and yours richly in Christ.</p>
<p>Bob Hayton</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gordy, Still no go on Part 1- bounced again.  The file is ~8.5 megs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gordy, Still no go on Part 1- bounced again.  The file is ~8.5 megs.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.fundamentallyreformed.com/2007/06/19/powerful-preaching-a-case-study/comment-page-1/#comment-7038</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ralph, I think you&#039;d also enjoy the lecture by Bryan Chappell that I referred to above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralph, I think you&#8217;d also enjoy the lecture by Bryan Chappell that I referred to above.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s another aspect to these messages and that is fear.  There was a time in my life when I did not want to meet the Lord out of fear that I did not live up to what He expected.  This fear was inculcated by IFB preachers who used the guilt tactic and then followed it with messages about what will happen to you if you haven&#039;t done enough such and such--praying, soulwinning, whatever.

Through subsequent involvement in churches with a more reformed view, I began to understand what it was that Christ had done for me.  Out of appreciation, I began to desire to do things that were previously motivated by guilt.  I also began to look forward to seeing the Lord, because He loved me and gave Himself for me.

I am not perfect, and I know that I can do better, but I no longer fear the One whom all believers should look forward to meeting one day.

I&#039;m currently attending an IFB church because where I live there are few options.  So, I&#039;m having to manage in that environment, although it&#039;s much more moderated than some of what I&#039;ve experienced before.  I can relate to Secretly Reformed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s another aspect to these messages and that is fear.  There was a time in my life when I did not want to meet the Lord out of fear that I did not live up to what He expected.  This fear was inculcated by IFB preachers who used the guilt tactic and then followed it with messages about what will happen to you if you haven&#8217;t done enough such and such&#8211;praying, soulwinning, whatever.</p>
<p>Through subsequent involvement in churches with a more reformed view, I began to understand what it was that Christ had done for me.  Out of appreciation, I began to desire to do things that were previously motivated by guilt.  I also began to look forward to seeing the Lord, because He loved me and gave Himself for me.</p>
<p>I am not perfect, and I know that I can do better, but I no longer fear the One whom all believers should look forward to meeting one day.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m currently attending an IFB church because where I live there are few options.  So, I&#8217;m having to manage in that environment, although it&#8217;s much more moderated than some of what I&#8217;ve experienced before.  I can relate to Secretly Reformed.</p>
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