Comments on: My 219 Epiphany, part 2 http://www.fundamentallyreformed.com/2007/01/27/my-219-epiphany-part-2/ Reforming Fundamentalism (IFB) through Reformed Theology Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:51:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: My 219 Epiphany « Fundamentally Reformed http://www.fundamentallyreformed.com/2007/01/27/my-219-epiphany-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-6519 My 219 Epiphany « Fundamentally Reformed Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:45:03 +0000 http://fundyreformed.wordpress.com/2007/01/27/my-219-epiphany-part-2/#comment-6519 [...] Sorry to do this to you, but you’ll have to stay tuned until next time for the rest of the story. Tomorrow, hopefully, we will look at what 1 John 2:19 says and how it reshaped my thinking. I am expecting to finish this tomorrow, but it may take one more installment. We’ll see.  Go to Part 2. [...] [...] Sorry to do this to you, but you’ll have to stay tuned until next time for the rest of the story. Tomorrow, hopefully, we will look at what 1 John 2:19 says and how it reshaped my thinking. I am expecting to finish this tomorrow, but it may take one more installment. We’ll see.  Go to Part 2. [...]

]]> By: fundyreformed http://www.fundamentallyreformed.com/2007/01/27/my-219-epiphany-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-6512 fundyreformed Wed, 23 May 2007 07:14:44 +0000 http://fundyreformed.wordpress.com/2007/01/27/my-219-epiphany-part-2/#comment-6512 Micky, Glad to hear of what God has done for you. Such conversions are wonderful. May God fill you with a greater knowledge of His Word, as it is the Word which can build us up and encourage us in our life of faith. Blessings in Christ, Bob Hayton Micky,

Glad to hear of what God has done for you. Such conversions are wonderful. May God fill you with a greater knowledge of His Word, as it is the Word which can build us up and encourage us in our life of faith.

Blessings in Christ,

Bob Hayton

]]> By: Micky http://www.fundamentallyreformed.com/2007/01/27/my-219-epiphany-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-6518 Micky Fri, 11 May 2007 11:08:02 +0000 http://fundyreformed.wordpress.com/2007/01/27/my-219-epiphany-part-2/#comment-6518 About 3 years ago I dropped into a black hole – four months of absolute terror. I wanted to end my life, but somehow [Holy Spirit], I reached out to a friend who took me to hospital. I had three visits [hospital] in four months – I actually thought I was in hell. I imagine I was going through some sort of metamorphosis [mental, physical & spiritual]. I had been seeing a therapist [1994] on a regular basis, up until this point in time. I actually thought I would be locked away – but the hospital staff was very supportive [I had no control over my process]. I was released from hospital 16th September 1994, but my fear, pain & shame had only subsided a little. I remember this particular morning waking up [home] & my process would start up again [fear, pain, & shame]. No one could help me, not even my therapist [I was terrified]. I asked Jesus Christ to have mercy on me & forgive me my sins. Slowly, all my fear has dissipated & I believe Jesus delivered me from my “psychological prison.” I am a practicing Catholic & the Holy Spirit is my friend & strength; every day since then has been a joy & blessing. I deserve to go to hell for the life I have led, but Jesus through His sacrifice on the cross, delivered me from my inequities. John 3: 8, John 15: 26, are verses I can relate to, organically. He’s a real person who is with me all the time. I have so much joy & peace in my life, today, after a childhood spent in orphanages [England & Australia]. God LOVES me so much. Fear, pain, & shame, are no longer my constant companions. I just wanted to share my experience with you [Luke 8: 16 – 17]. Peace Be With You Micky About 3 years ago I dropped into a black hole – four months of absolute terror. I wanted to end my life, but somehow [Holy Spirit], I reached out to a friend who took me to hospital. I had three visits [hospital] in four months – I actually thought I was in hell. I imagine I was going through some sort of metamorphosis [mental, physical & spiritual]. I had been seeing a therapist [1994] on a regular basis, up until this point in time. I actually thought I would be locked away – but the hospital staff was very supportive [I had no control over my process]. I was released from hospital 16th September 1994, but my fear, pain & shame had only subsided a little. I remember this particular morning waking up [home] & my process would start up again [fear, pain, & shame]. No one could help me, not even my therapist [I was terrified]. I asked Jesus Christ to have mercy on me & forgive me my sins. Slowly, all my fear has dissipated & I believe Jesus delivered me from my “psychological prison.” I am a practicing Catholic & the Holy Spirit is my friend & strength; every day since then has been a joy & blessing. I deserve to go to hell for the life I have led, but Jesus through His sacrifice on the cross, delivered me from my inequities. John 3: 8, John 15: 26, are verses I can relate to, organically. He’s a real person who is with me all the time. I have so much joy & peace in my life, today, after a childhood spent in orphanages [England & Australia]. God LOVES me so much. Fear, pain, & shame, are no longer my constant companions. I just wanted to share my experience with you [Luke 8: 16 – 17].

Peace Be With You
Micky

]]> By: The Misadventures of Captain Headknowledge http://www.fundamentallyreformed.com/2007/01/27/my-219-epiphany-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-6513 The Misadventures of Captain Headknowledge Mon, 29 Jan 2007 22:37:29 +0000 http://fundyreformed.wordpress.com/2007/01/27/my-219-epiphany-part-2/#comment-6513 Of course, Larry's right! I was amazed after I learned the Reformed doctrine of the perseverance/preservation of the saints, that the Articles of Faith of my particular fellowship (formerly BBF, most recently, IBF--based in Forth Worth, TX) had an article on "The Perseverance of the Saints" and defined it precisely as the Reformed teach it! I guess it is a left over from the heritage from which the Baptist tradition had fallen over the last couple of centuries. Now both the BBF and the IBF are splits off of the WBF, so I'll quote from the source: "Section 15. Of the Perseverance of the Saints "We believe that such only are real believers as endure unto the end, that their persevering attachment to Christ is the grand mark which distinguishes them from superficial professors, that a special Providence watches over their welfare, and that they are kept by the power of God through faith unto eternal salvation. "John 8:31-32; Col. 1:21; I John 2:19; Matt. 13:19-21; Rom. 8:23; Matt. 6:30; Psa. 121:3; Heb. 1:14; I Pet. 1:5; Phil. 1:6; John 10:28; John 10:29; John 16:8; Rom. 8:35-39." Considering the common state of "once saved, always saved" preaching, modern semi-pelagian Baptists demonstrate how irrelevant their articles of faith are. I suppose due to their misguided zeal for what I call "The Baptist Version of 'sola scriptura.'" (http://capthk.blogspot.com/2006/12/baptist-version-of-sola-scriptura.html) Of course, Larry’s right! I was amazed after I learned the Reformed doctrine of the perseverance/preservation of the saints, that the Articles of Faith of my particular fellowship (formerly BBF, most recently, IBF–based in Forth Worth, TX) had an article on “The Perseverance of the Saints” and defined it precisely as the Reformed teach it! I guess it is a left over from the heritage from which the Baptist tradition had fallen over the last couple of centuries.

Now both the BBF and the IBF are splits off of the WBF, so I’ll quote from the source:

“Section 15. Of the Perseverance of the Saints
“We believe that such only are real believers as endure unto the end, that their persevering attachment to Christ is the grand mark which distinguishes them from superficial professors, that a special Providence watches over their welfare, and that they are kept by the power of God through faith unto eternal salvation.

“John 8:31-32; Col. 1:21; I John 2:19; Matt. 13:19-21; Rom. 8:23; Matt. 6:30; Psa. 121:3; Heb. 1:14; I Pet. 1:5; Phil. 1:6; John 10:28; John 10:29; John 16:8; Rom. 8:35-39.”

Considering the common state of “once saved, always saved” preaching, modern semi-pelagian Baptists demonstrate how irrelevant their articles of faith are. I suppose due to their misguided zeal for what I call “The Baptist Version of ’sola scriptura.’”

(http://capthk.blogspot.com/200.....ptura.html)

]]> By: fundyreformed http://www.fundamentallyreformed.com/2007/01/27/my-219-epiphany-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-6517 fundyreformed Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:07:32 +0000 http://fundyreformed.wordpress.com/2007/01/27/my-219-epiphany-part-2/#comment-6517 Thanks for the comments, Larry. Blessings in Christ, Bob Thanks for the comments, Larry.

Blessings in Christ,

Bob

]]> By: Larry Lawton http://www.fundamentallyreformed.com/2007/01/27/my-219-epiphany-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-6516 Larry Lawton Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:09:03 +0000 http://fundyreformed.wordpress.com/2007/01/27/my-219-epiphany-part-2/#comment-6516 There's too many 'cliches' in Evangelicalism, and especially Fundamentalism, when it comes to the biblical understanding of the doctrine of the perserverance of the saints. Too little is implied in the statement "once saved, always saved" in that it is used by non-Calvinists to justify their position on eternal security. It's difficult for me now to imagine that I once held to such shallow doctrine. The "P" in TULIP not only implies much more doctrinally, but it also assumes that the elect will persevere in their faith by fighting sin, following Christ, and allowing the believer to be empowered by a supernatural Holy Spirit to walk with God. Although Bob's two posts on the subject are a concise summary, it covers the essentials of the biblical understanding of perserverance. Very well done in explaining, as well as contrasting, two teachings that seem/appear to be the same-- when they're not. There’s too many ‘cliches’ in Evangelicalism, and especially Fundamentalism, when it comes to the biblical understanding of the doctrine of the perserverance of the saints. Too little is implied in the statement “once saved, always saved” in that it is used by non-Calvinists to justify their position on eternal security. It’s difficult for me now to imagine that I once held to such shallow doctrine. The “P” in TULIP not only implies much more doctrinally, but it also assumes that the elect will persevere in their faith by fighting sin, following Christ, and allowing the believer to be empowered by a supernatural Holy Spirit to walk with God. Although Bob’s two posts on the subject are a concise summary, it covers the essentials of the biblical understanding of perserverance. Very well done in explaining, as well as contrasting, two teachings that seem/appear to be the same– when they’re not.

]]> By: fundyreformed http://www.fundamentallyreformed.com/2007/01/27/my-219-epiphany-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-6515 fundyreformed Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:10:36 +0000 http://fundyreformed.wordpress.com/2007/01/27/my-219-epiphany-part-2/#comment-6515 Amen, John. Thanks! Amen, John.

Thanks!

]]> By: The Misadventures of Captain Headknowledge http://www.fundamentallyreformed.com/2007/01/27/my-219-epiphany-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-6514 The Misadventures of Captain Headknowledge Mon, 29 Jan 2007 10:51:50 +0000 http://fundyreformed.wordpress.com/2007/01/27/my-219-epiphany-part-2/#comment-6514 My pastor's homiletical answer to the once saved, always saved question submits that we put the emPHAsis on the wrong sylLABle: It's not "Once saved, ALWAYS saved," it's "Once SAVED, always saved!" Like they said at Bible College, "That'll preach, Brother!" (and not only that, it's even true!) My pastor’s homiletical answer to the once saved, always saved question submits that we put the emPHAsis on the wrong sylLABle: It’s not “Once saved, ALWAYS saved,” it’s “Once SAVED, always saved!”

Like they said at Bible College, “That’ll preach, Brother!”

(and not only that, it’s even true!)

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