Comments on: Hoping for a Re-Run of Original Fundamentalism http://www.fundamentallyreformed.com/2006/10/06/rerun-of-fundamentalism/ Reforming Fundamentalism (IFB) through Reformed Theology Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:05:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: How The Information Age is Changing Fundamentalism « Return to Biblicism http://www.fundamentallyreformed.com/2006/10/06/rerun-of-fundamentalism/comment-page-1/#comment-6059 How The Information Age is Changing Fundamentalism « Return to Biblicism Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:04:09 +0000 http://fundyreformed.wordpress.com/2006/10/06/rerun-of-fundamentalism/#comment-6059 [...] thing? Does it split us more than ever? My personal opinion is that it is a good thing, because the mainstream of fundamentalism seems closer to historic fundamentalism, and hence, closer to the Bible. As it moves away from [...] [...] thing? Does it split us more than ever? My personal opinion is that it is a good thing, because the mainstream of fundamentalism seems closer to historic fundamentalism, and hence, closer to the Bible. As it moves away from [...]

]]> By: William Dudding http://www.fundamentallyreformed.com/2006/10/06/rerun-of-fundamentalism/comment-page-1/#comment-6056 William Dudding Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:32:17 +0000 http://fundyreformed.wordpress.com/2006/10/06/rerun-of-fundamentalism/#comment-6056 That helps. thanks. Well, as long as he doesn't think that the gift of tounges is the gobbelly-gook mumbo jumbo that the Pentacostals believe, then I'm fine with that opinion. I guess if God wanted to grant the gifts of tongues (the real thing spoken languages by people who do not know the language) healing and all that, then God can do it today...i just personally don't believe we have those gifts today because our authentication (the Word of God) is completed. That helps. thanks. Well, as long as he doesn’t think that the gift of tounges is the gobbelly-gook mumbo jumbo that the Pentacostals believe, then I’m fine with that opinion. I guess if God wanted to grant the gifts of tongues (the real thing spoken languages by people who do not know the language) healing and all that, then God can do it today…i just personally don’t believe we have those gifts today because our authentication (the Word of God) is completed.

]]> By: fundyreformed http://www.fundamentallyreformed.com/2006/10/06/rerun-of-fundamentalism/comment-page-1/#comment-6058 fundyreformed Sat, 14 Oct 2006 03:14:14 +0000 http://fundyreformed.wordpress.com/2006/10/06/rerun-of-fundamentalism/#comment-6058 William, <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/Articles/ByTopic/87/1498_Signs_and_Wonders_Then_and_Now/" rel="nofollow">This article</a> by Piper explains his basis for believing that all the spiritual gifts are for today (continuationist positition as opposed to cessationist). He is open but cautious concerning these gifts, but believes that we should earnestly desire them as Scripture commands (1 Cor. 14:). <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/Sermons/BySeries/36/" rel="nofollow">This sermon series</a> is where Piper dealt with the topic at length for his church's benefit. I have never witnessed tongues nor much of anything that would appear overtly charismatic in nature during the almost two years I have been attending Piper's church. And I know that Piper has real problems with some of the charismatic extremes. He would be classified as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Wave_of_the_Holy_Spirit" rel="nofollow">Third Wave</a>, rather than strictly <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charismatic_movement" rel="nofollow">charismatic</a>. And just so you know, Reformed (Calvinistic) Charismatics are becoming more common these days. See <a href="http://www.adrian.warnock.info/" rel="nofollow">Adrian Warnock's blog</a>, and both <a href="http://www.enjoyinggodministries.com/about.asp" rel="nofollow">Enjoying God Ministries</a>, and <a href="http://sovereigngraceministries.org/about/" rel="nofollow">Sovereign Grace Ministries</a> as examples. Does this help? William,

This article by Piper explains his basis for believing that all the spiritual gifts are for today (continuationist positition as opposed to cessationist). He is open but cautious concerning these gifts, but believes that we should earnestly desire them as Scripture commands (1 Cor. 14:). This sermon series is where Piper dealt with the topic at length for his church’s benefit.

I have never witnessed tongues nor much of anything that would appear overtly charismatic in nature during the almost two years I have been attending Piper’s church. And I know that Piper has real problems with some of the charismatic extremes. He would be classified as Third Wave, rather than strictly charismatic.

And just so you know, Reformed (Calvinistic) Charismatics are becoming more common these days. See Adrian Warnock’s blog, and both Enjoying God Ministries, and Sovereign Grace Ministries as examples.

Does this help?

]]> By: fundyreformed http://www.fundamentallyreformed.com/2006/10/06/rerun-of-fundamentalism/comment-page-1/#comment-6053 fundyreformed Sat, 14 Oct 2006 02:53:14 +0000 http://fundyreformed.wordpress.com/2006/10/06/rerun-of-fundamentalism/#comment-6053 Seeker, I agree that this are potential dangers, and I do mean dangers, for this resurgence of a fundamentalistic mindset. And I do think that many of the leaders have this clearly in mind. Mohler, Piper, and MacArthur all have first hand knowledge of the extremes to which fundamentalists of yesteryear (some still existing today) can go. I was encouraged by Piper's inviting Driscoll to the Desiring God conference, myself. Anyone else have a thought regarding this difficulty that Seeker has pointed out? Seeker,

I agree that this are potential dangers, and I do mean dangers, for this resurgence of a fundamentalistic mindset. And I do think that many of the leaders have this clearly in mind. Mohler, Piper, and MacArthur all have first hand knowledge of the extremes to which fundamentalists of yesteryear (some still existing today) can go. I was encouraged by Piper’s inviting Driscoll to the Desiring God conference, myself.

Anyone else have a thought regarding this difficulty that Seeker has pointed out?

]]> By: William Dudding http://www.fundamentallyreformed.com/2006/10/06/rerun-of-fundamentalism/comment-page-1/#comment-6057 William Dudding Tue, 10 Oct 2006 19:39:04 +0000 http://fundyreformed.wordpress.com/2006/10/06/rerun-of-fundamentalism/#comment-6057 Hey Bob, I just bought Piper's book "Desiring God" I look forward to reading it. But I have a question, how is Piper "charismatic" as mentioned in this article? My caution flag goes up around anything coming out of the charismatic movement. Since he's a Calvinist, at least I know he's not like Oral Roberts or something. :) Hey Bob,

I just bought Piper’s book “Desiring God” I look forward to reading it.

But I have a question, how is Piper “charismatic” as mentioned in this article? My caution flag goes up around anything coming out of the charismatic movement. Since he’s a Calvinist, at least I know he’s not like Oral Roberts or something. :)

]]> By: seeker http://www.fundamentallyreformed.com/2006/10/06/rerun-of-fundamentalism/comment-page-1/#comment-6052 seeker Mon, 09 Oct 2006 04:15:07 +0000 http://fundyreformed.wordpress.com/2006/10/06/rerun-of-fundamentalism/#comment-6052 The real question is, will modern day fundamentalists (<a href="http://www.twoorthree.net/2006/09/the_rise_of_neo.html" rel="nofollow">neo-fundamentalists</a>) make the same mistakes as their forefathers - mistaking modernity for worldliness, abandoning intellectualism to the liberals, drawing the circle around themselves so narrowly that they reject newer moves of the spirit, esp. among the youth, and condemning differences in minor doctrines as if they were essential. The real question is, will modern day fundamentalists (neo-fundamentalists) make the same mistakes as their forefathers – mistaking modernity for worldliness, abandoning intellectualism to the liberals, drawing the circle around themselves so narrowly that they reject newer moves of the spirit, esp. among the youth, and condemning differences in minor doctrines as if they were essential.

]]> By: fundyreformed http://www.fundamentallyreformed.com/2006/10/06/rerun-of-fundamentalism/comment-page-1/#comment-6054 fundyreformed Sun, 08 Oct 2006 04:52:57 +0000 http://fundyreformed.wordpress.com/2006/10/06/rerun-of-fundamentalism/#comment-6054 Thanks for stopping by Joel. The discussion between Nathan and Dr. Bauder is quite interesting over at Pulpit Blog under the article I mention here. It would be nice to have more discussion here on this, too, though. Thanks for stopping by Joel. The discussion between Nathan and Dr. Bauder is quite interesting over at Pulpit Blog under the article I mention here.

It would be nice to have more discussion here on this, too, though.

]]> By: Joel Tetreau http://www.fundamentallyreformed.com/2006/10/06/rerun-of-fundamentalism/comment-page-1/#comment-6055 Joel Tetreau Sat, 07 Oct 2006 23:18:55 +0000 http://fundyreformed.wordpress.com/2006/10/06/rerun-of-fundamentalism/#comment-6055 I like Mr. B and Mr. C - Don't also forget there is a Mr. A. Mr. A has lately been upset at Mr. B - because Mr. B has been occasionally hanging around with Mr. C. I like the idea of the re-run of fundamentalism being a group that would include some in Group C, Group B maybe even a few from Group A. Good article! Straight Ahead! Joel I like Mr. B and Mr. C – Don’t also forget there is a Mr. A. Mr. A has lately been upset at Mr. B – because Mr. B has been occasionally hanging around with Mr. C.

I like the idea of the re-run of fundamentalism being a group that would include some in Group C, Group B maybe even a few from Group A.

Good article!

Straight Ahead!

Joel

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